"505 - morphine not found" (morphine500)
10/26/2013 at 15:22 • Filed to: None
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"505 - morphine not found" (morphine500)
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This is how it looks, if you have a Leaf with with range extender. And yes, that engine fits in the trunk.
dogisbadob
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 15:26 |
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Twin engined monster!
Turner950s
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 15:27 |
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Can you rig it to drive while charging?
Boxer_4
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 15:28 |
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Introducing the 100% electric Nissan LEAF (Please ignore the gas generator)
hike
> Turner950s
10/26/2013 at 15:31 |
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Sounds like what Top Gear did with their electric car, Geoff (also know as the Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust, or something like that). I think it had an exhaust issue until they put a chimney type exhaust on it. So if you cut a whole in the roof, it sounds possible.
Battery Tender Unnecessary
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 15:35 |
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To everyone I hear that asks why the i8 isn't a pure electric "like the Tesla" "why is BMW not going full EV"?
This is why. Sometimes I want to drive more than 200 miles in a day.
Zipppy, Mazdurp builder, Probeski owner and former ricerboy
> Turner950s
10/26/2013 at 15:50 |
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I don't think so, I know someone who has a LEAF, and he says it doesn't "run" with it plugged in.
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505 - morphine not found
> Battery Tender Unnecessary
10/26/2013 at 16:30 |
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200 miles would be nice and dandy, but this particular leaf never managed more than 60-something (yes, sixty), even after a full night charge. The battery is old now.
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Battery Tender Unnecessary
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 16:45 |
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Good lord, that's abysmal. And battery packs are like $15k...if they would sell you one but they won't. Nissan has offered $100/month leases for the packs. Owners aren't happy. BMW is hoping to increase longevity by putting a 7kWh battery in the i8, only using 5kWh of its capacity with advanced cell management, and rotating which cells are used to increase battery life.
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505 - morphine not found
> Battery Tender Unnecessary
10/26/2013 at 17:05 |
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To be fair, we got this car from the Nissan PR here with strict orders that we shouldn't test it - this is already three years old, from the very first batch, and there are already a next generation out.
Still, the battery only has like 60% capacity after three years. Sounds normal, if i think about my HTC Desire, which happens to be three years old now, and has roughly 60-70% capacity, but quite frightening, if i think about the Leaf being a car.
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Battery Tender Unnecessary
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 17:18 |
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Yeah. That's my problem with how people tend to gloss over the negatives of EV ownership, which aren't a big deal if car companies are very proactive in making customers aware, but they don't do the best job of being completely transparent with ownership caveats. I know it's an unfair comparison on its face, but imagine if the gas tank in a ICE car reduced in size 10-20% a year. We still have a long way to go with battery tech and the average consumer doesn't like being a beta tester. My senior thesis of my chemical engineering degree was on post-gasoline infrastructure, transition and implementation. People focus on all the technical aspects most often and forget that one of the largest challenges is overcoming consumer expectation. You have a society where a well taken care of vehicle can last well over half a century, you have cars that can get over 800 miles on a single tank, people are used to being able to take 500+ mile trips without spending more than a couple minutes at a pump before continuing. Then you tell them they are about to buy a car that can't do any of those things and it's hard to accept.
Anon
> 505 - morphine not found
10/26/2013 at 20:45 |
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Mid engined monster!
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505 - morphine not found
> Battery Tender Unnecessary
10/27/2013 at 14:31 |
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You are absolutely right, but that is of course the single reason why electric cars aren't all around yet. Car companies know it isn't working yet, so while they try to come up with a solution to this very important caveat, they only test the waters.
Also, there is a next level of this problem: once they do find a solution, and electric cars swarm the streets, the electric infrastructure will get a jump to a load it's not designed for. So even though they are already very good cars, when you drive them, the background has more questions than answers, as i see it. Which is a shame, and i hope Man finds a solution to this soon.